Faceless Drawers Behind Doors (with Cleats)

If adding drawers behind doors, users must add drawers prior to adding doors – This will not work if the doors are added first. The drawers must be faceless for them to properly reside behind doors.

Once the drawers are faceless, add an Ext Door.

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The user will see offset warnings coordinating with the door hinge side(s).

To add cleats to the runners, right click on the pull-out and select Properties [Part]. There is a heading for Offsets. The user can choose the side(s) for the offset hardware, the height, and the finish. The Finish will dictate the cleat thickness (more information below).

When the cleats are added to either side(s) of the drawer, notice the component width does not change to compensate, as it would with baskets or other pull-outs. Instead, it will adjust the width of the drawer box, as drawer boxes are available in custom widths and do not have to be standard.

Users can always double check the drawer width in the drawer part properties, under the Dimensions subheading below the Box heading.

If your location does not offer custom drawers, or you prefer to stick to custom sized boxes for cost reasons, you will have to adjust the width of the components manually to compensate. You can use the method below to determine the required width.

The second method for maintaining a standard sized drawer box behind doors is by placing a basket or other pull-out item in first, add the cleat(s) in properties, and then deleting that part (unless, of course, users are wanting them as part of the design).

This method will maintain the revised component width even after deleting that part, which means once the drawer(s) and appropriate cleats are added, it will still be the standard size for the original component width.

CLEAT THICKNESS

Typically, a thicker cleat (1-1/8” or 1-3/16”) is required to clear the door. However, a cleat cannot sit directly behind the hinge and the hinges will have a red warning.

Any hinge interference will be represented as a red warning. Consult with your plan reviewer if seeing these warnings.

The thickness of the cleat can be changed in the Properties [Part] of the pull-out by selecting the Finish under the Offsets heading.

Here are some recommendations based on the door overlays, as the type of overlay can dictate the appropriate cleat thickness.

Full Overlay Doors – A ¾” cleat can be used.

Half Overlay Doors – Thick material cleat required for all pull-outs.

Inset Doors – Thick material cleat required for all pull-outs. However, 1” material will not clear (White/Ivory/Cashmere) so must use different finish in 1-1/8” or greater thickness.

The user should ALWAYS consult with their plan reviewers when designing with pull-outs behind doors as the requirements may vary by location.

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